Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 03:51AMSo... I rarely make posts about stuff, but I feel that there has been a decrease in both admin presence and quality when they are on. I was muted by Ktulu for the following, I've cut the chaff but kept everything exchanged between us. The space separates a round.
*Ktulu talks on mic for 30-45 seconds straight about something I can't hear*
*DEAD*(Counter-Terrorist) [FT] ABadNewsBear : god stfu ktulu
*DEAD*(Counter-Terrorist) [FT] ABadNewsBear : lawl
*DEAD*(Counter-Terrorist) [FT] ABadNewsBear : no i just tell him to shut up every time he gets on because all he does is jabber
(ADMIN) [FT] The Caller of Ktulu [9²5]: Well.. CT camping is against the rules
(Counter-Terrorist) [FT] ABadNewsBear @ CT Spawn : slay imo
[FT] The Caller of Ktulu [9²5] attacked a teammate
[FT] The Caller of Ktulu [9²5] killed Irish_Ninj4 with hegrenade.
[FT] gLiTch,,SH™ [9²5] killed [FT] The Caller of Ktulu [9²5] with m3.
(Counter-Terrorist) [FT] ABadNewsBear @ Back Way : WOW FAIL
Player [FT] The Caller of Ktulu [9²5] has been forgiven for team killing Irish_Ninj4
(Counter-Terrorist) [FT] ABadNewsBear @ Back Way : slay
(ADMIN) [FT] The Caller of Ktulu [9²5]: Bear, shut the fuck up.
(Counter-Terrorist) [FT] ABadNewsBear @ Back Way : lol that's not an offense
(Counter-Terrorist) [FT] ABadNewsBear @ Back Way : you did fail you killed a teammate
[FT] gLiTch,,SH™ [9²5] is the last man standing on his team
[FT] Burger Ass : 1 hostie ftw
[FT] ABadNewsBear killed [FT] gLiTch,,SH™ [9²5] with deagle.
(ADMIN) [FT] The Caller of Ktulu [9²5]: Note: There are 4 hostages total.
[FT] ABadNewsBear : PWN
Player: [FT] ABadNewsBear - Damage Given
(Counter-Terrorist) [FT] ABadNewsBear @ CT Spawn : those two were right there
(Counter-Terrorist) [FT] ABadNewsBear @ CT Spawn : qq
[FT] Burger Ass : but the goodness i feel when i rescue just one
(Counter-Terrorist) [FT] ABadNewsBear @ Garage : ^ this
Maddogme [F7L5] killed [FT] AwsedreswA [TF] with p90.
(ADMIN) [FT] The Caller of Ktulu [9²5]: muted player [FT] ABadNewsBear
Following this I tried to reach him by @, unaware that this was impossible due to the mute. I spammed radio commands in protest and irritation for 30-45 seconds. Remained muted for the next 4-5 rounds until I left. I don't think I did anything warranting a mute, and quite frankly a mute, as far as I'm concerned, is worse than a slay/slap because I come to FTC to talk to people primarily; I find the gameplay less enjoyable than dm or dust.
At the same time, Ktulu warrants no punishment, I just want to register my complaint, and, as a regular, give a heads up about the more general decline in FTC admin quality.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 04:04AM
Ha, Ktulu and Bandito were muting people, but it was only for like 45 seconds at a time for fun. I got muted a few times, and Bandito you still have fat fuckin fingers!
Heh, all in good fun, just to throw my 2 cents in I didn't see foul play, just fuckin around, but the admins should probably not do this seeing as someone either might take it as a serious thing or you forget to un mute them
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 04:04AM
Ha, Ktulu and Bandito were muting people, but it was only for like 45 seconds at a time for fun. I got muted a few times, and Bandito you still have fat fuckin fingers!
Heh, all in good fun, just to throw my 2 cents in I didn't see foul play, just fuckin around, but the admins should probably not do this seeing as someone either might take it as a serious thing or you forget to un mute them
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
gLiTch, Fri Aug 01 2008, 04:09AM
i fail
btw, i dont know how i didnt notice the mute... I guess i was too busy pwning bitches up with my shotty. However, i did realize Ktulu specifically tell badnewsbear to stop spamming radio commands.
That IS the only thing i remember though. I usually spot issues pretty quickly... but this didnt seem like one to me.
In my opinion... this could have been settled in a PM. But.... BUT.... this is nice to bring to our attention. As agent said, massive muting or whatever, and from what i noticed.. lots of admin chat spam was going on in the server while i was in there. There were quite a few admins in there besides me... and i will not mention names.
We should keep that shit to a minimum.
That is all.
gLiTch, Fri Aug 01 2008, 04:09AM
ABadnewsbear wrote ...
[FT] gLiTch,,SH™ [9²5] is the last man standing on his team
[FT] Burger Ass : 1 hostie ftw
[FT] ABadNewsBear killed [FT] gLiTch,,SH™ [9²5] with deagle.
[FT] gLiTch,,SH™ [9²5] is the last man standing on his team
[FT] Burger Ass : 1 hostie ftw
[FT] ABadNewsBear killed [FT] gLiTch,,SH™ [9²5] with deagle.
i fail
btw, i dont know how i didnt notice the mute... I guess i was too busy pwning bitches up with my shotty. However, i did realize Ktulu specifically tell badnewsbear to stop spamming radio commands.
That IS the only thing i remember though. I usually spot issues pretty quickly... but this didnt seem like one to me.
In my opinion... this could have been settled in a PM. But.... BUT.... this is nice to bring to our attention. As agent said, massive muting or whatever, and from what i noticed.. lots of admin chat spam was going on in the server while i was in there. There were quite a few admins in there besides me... and i will not mention names.
We should keep that shit to a minimum.
That is all.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
.4ngryToasters, Fri Aug 01 2008, 04:11AM
people take jokes way to seriously round this corner of the internet. I feel like i took a drama class for the summer.
.4ngryToasters, Fri Aug 01 2008, 04:11AM
people take jokes way to seriously round this corner of the internet. I feel like i took a drama class for the summer.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 04:15AM
Yeah... he wasn't joking, and we did have a steam conversation whilst I remained muted.
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 04:15AM
Yeah... he wasn't joking, and we did have a steam conversation whilst I remained muted.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
The Caller of Ktulu, Fri Aug 01 2008, 04:45AM
Haha, bullshit. You were unmuted before you /ragequit. I did tell you to stop, which was answered with more fails and such, and when I merely made a comment about the ammount of hostages, not directed at anyone in particular, you said "qq". Now if this was from any random player, I would have done the same, maybe even kicked. As far as I'm concerned, I did not abuse anything.
The Caller of Ktulu, Fri Aug 01 2008, 04:45AM
ABadNewsBear wrote ...
Yeah... he wasn't joking, and we did have a steam conversation whilst I remained muted.
Yeah... he wasn't joking, and we did have a steam conversation whilst I remained muted.
Haha, bullshit. You were unmuted before you /ragequit. I did tell you to stop, which was answered with more fails and such, and when I merely made a comment about the ammount of hostages, not directed at anyone in particular, you said "qq". Now if this was from any random player, I would have done the same, maybe even kicked. As far as I'm concerned, I did not abuse anything.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
kd., Fri Aug 01 2008, 05:52AM
ktulu, you're hawt
LOL
kd., Fri Aug 01 2008, 05:52AM
ktulu, you're hawt
LOL
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
Postman, Fri Aug 01 2008, 06:00AM
/sigh, hypocrites....
Postman, Fri Aug 01 2008, 06:00AM
ABadNewsBear wrote ...
(Counter-Terrorist) [FT] ABadNewsBear @ CT Spawn : qq
(Counter-Terrorist) [FT] ABadNewsBear @ CT Spawn : qq
/sigh, hypocrites....
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 06:26AM
I was not unmuted, I attempted to talk every round and was not able to do so.
Postman: "qq" is as standard a response to something as "gg" and not a serious suggestion
Edit: I've responded to Ktulu and registered my complaint officially, I will let what I've said stand.
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 06:26AM
I was not unmuted, I attempted to talk every round and was not able to do so.
Postman: "qq" is as standard a response to something as "gg" and not a serious suggestion
Edit: I've responded to Ktulu and registered my complaint officially, I will let what I've said stand.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
The Caller of Ktulu, Fri Aug 01 2008, 06:56AM
Thats fine, however "qq" is not a standard response. Sorry, but you are wrong.
The Caller of Ktulu, Fri Aug 01 2008, 06:56AM
Thats fine, however "qq" is not a standard response. Sorry, but you are wrong.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
Maddogme, Fri Aug 01 2008, 11:00AM
QQ= Quit Crying or tears for all I know.. Idkmybffjill.
Maddogme, Fri Aug 01 2008, 11:00AM
QQ= Quit Crying or tears for all I know.. Idkmybffjill.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
Rusty, Fri Aug 01 2008, 11:51AM
/ragequit
next?
Rusty, Fri Aug 01 2008, 11:51AM
/ragequit
next?
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
Kcow, Fri Aug 01 2008, 01:30PM
Make me an Op on surf. That would cause the clan to ragequit
Kcow, Fri Aug 01 2008, 01:30PM
Rusty wrote ...
/ragequit
next?
/ragequit
next?
Make me an Op on surf. That would cause the clan to ragequit
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
Kirby, Fri Aug 01 2008, 02:24PM
lol.
Kirby, Fri Aug 01 2008, 02:24PM
lol.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
Noname|Boom, Fri Aug 01 2008, 04:05PM
Noname|Boom, Fri Aug 01 2008, 04:05PM
Maddogme wrote ...
QQ= Quit Crying or tears for all I know.. Idkmybffjill.
Yeah it is. Anyways, seems like this was a classic /ragequit, even though I wasn't there, just my opinion.QQ= Quit Crying or tears for all I know.. Idkmybffjill.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
b4ndito, Fri Aug 01 2008, 06:53PM
I muted 3stripe, cause he was pissing me off non-stop. I muted Knightrider once, as a joke (which I shouldn't have), and then I think I muted Ktulu for the same reason as 3stripe.
Minus Knightrider, any mute that I threw out that night was fully warranted. I just was tired of putting up with people talking shit all night.
Edit: I think I muted Irish Ninj4 too, but that's just cause he's my butt buddy.
b4ndito, Fri Aug 01 2008, 06:53PM
FT Ag3nt wrote ...
Ha, Ktulu and Bandito were muting people, but it was only for like 45 seconds at a time for fun. I got muted a few times, and Bandito you still have fat fuckin fingers!
Ha, Ktulu and Bandito were muting people, but it was only for like 45 seconds at a time for fun. I got muted a few times, and Bandito you still have fat fuckin fingers!
I muted 3stripe, cause he was pissing me off non-stop. I muted Knightrider once, as a joke (which I shouldn't have), and then I think I muted Ktulu for the same reason as 3stripe.
Minus Knightrider, any mute that I threw out that night was fully warranted. I just was tired of putting up with people talking shit all night.
Edit: I think I muted Irish Ninj4 too, but that's just cause he's my butt buddy.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 06:58PM
If you actually bothered to read my resignation post, you would know that this isn't a ragequit. Your post exemplifies something I indirectly allude to, which is a lack of respect.
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 06:58PM
Rusty wrote ...
/ragequit
next?
/ragequit
next?
If you actually bothered to read my resignation post, you would know that this isn't a ragequit. Your post exemplifies something I indirectly allude to, which is a lack of respect.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:03PM
Since I can't post this in your resignation thread i'll just post it here (forums are fucked up for me.)
Sad to see you go. Always shitty when reg's quit playing, just don't remove FT from your favs!
Also, one of the reasons why you are quitting and why a lot of people quit is drama. Taking yourself way too fucking seriously. I know that the mute probably wasn't the first time that you feel like admin and shit has gone under, but seriously, not a big deal. Just realize that you are playing a complete waste of time computer game and who the fuck cares if you get a 30 minute ban or muted or slayed or frozen.
My point is, the mute didn't have to be drama but you made it drama by taking it public. You could have settled this over a PM or in-game with one of the admins but you didn't. So basically this whole big deal (dare i say drama?) over a mute is you being a total hypocrit. So just think how easy it is to make a rage post about something like that and then realize how easy it is to brush this shit off and keep playing with the kickass FT members that are left.
Good luck in whatever you do, come back plz and dont make everything srs bsns!
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:03PM
Since I can't post this in your resignation thread i'll just post it here (forums are fucked up for me.)
Sad to see you go. Always shitty when reg's quit playing, just don't remove FT from your favs!
Also, one of the reasons why you are quitting and why a lot of people quit is drama. Taking yourself way too fucking seriously. I know that the mute probably wasn't the first time that you feel like admin and shit has gone under, but seriously, not a big deal. Just realize that you are playing a complete waste of time computer game and who the fuck cares if you get a 30 minute ban or muted or slayed or frozen.
My point is, the mute didn't have to be drama but you made it drama by taking it public. You could have settled this over a PM or in-game with one of the admins but you didn't. So basically this whole big deal (dare i say drama?) over a mute is you being a total hypocrit. So just think how easy it is to make a rage post about something like that and then realize how easy it is to brush this shit off and keep playing with the kickass FT members that are left.
Good luck in whatever you do, come back plz and dont make everything srs bsns!
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:08PM
I talked to him on Steam and we couldn't resolve the issue. It seems to me that FT handles a lot of complaints "under the table" when maybe they shouldn't be. Admins need to be held accountable.
And you're sort of right, when a game becomes srs bisnis, that's a bad thing, which is part of why I've resigned. To me, FT membership is not worth frustration.
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:08PM
I talked to him on Steam and we couldn't resolve the issue. It seems to me that FT handles a lot of complaints "under the table" when maybe they shouldn't be. Admins need to be held accountable.
And you're sort of right, when a game becomes srs bisnis, that's a bad thing, which is part of why I've resigned. To me, FT membership is not worth frustration.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:08PM
Case in point with the whole ragequit deal. Thanks for the illustration. I get it totally by the way, you are just blowing it way out of proportion. Respect? Over the internet? Who cares if you aren't getting respect from some random ass Rusty. I could just as easily call him a fuckbag and not think twice. It's not that I'm "disrespecting" him to his face, its just easy to reply to something with no tact.
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:08PM
Case in point with the whole ragequit deal. Thanks for the illustration. I get it totally by the way, you are just blowing it way out of proportion. Respect? Over the internet? Who cares if you aren't getting respect from some random ass Rusty. I could just as easily call him a fuckbag and not think twice. It's not that I'm "disrespecting" him to his face, its just easy to reply to something with no tact.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:10PM
Ag3nt, you've always been a fun guy but you might want to look over that last post again, and think about what being in a clan together, especially a community clean, means.
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:10PM
Ag3nt, you've always been a fun guy but you might want to look over that last post again, and think about what being in a clan together, especially a community clean, means.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:11PM
Plus what exactly is FT membership? Do you gain anything by being FT as opposed to being a regular? I don't see a difference.
But by all means if you aren't having fun on FT then I can see why you would stop playing. The point of a game is to have fun and chill. Srs bsns is relegated to real life shit.
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:11PM
Plus what exactly is FT membership? Do you gain anything by being FT as opposed to being a regular? I don't see a difference.
But by all means if you aren't having fun on FT then I can see why you would stop playing. The point of a game is to have fun and chill. Srs bsns is relegated to real life shit.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:15PM
Yeah I get the whole community clan thing (is Rusty even in the clan? I'm behind the curve on membership) but one or two dickweed members doesnt bother me. It's the glitches and the noskills that keep me coming back. Just the four or five members that I actually enjoy playing with. I mean if they quit then I would still play on the server, but I probably wouldnt post on forums and I would probably only spend an hour or so a week on FT.
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:15PM
Yeah I get the whole community clan thing (is Rusty even in the clan? I'm behind the curve on membership) but one or two dickweed members doesnt bother me. It's the glitches and the noskills that keep me coming back. Just the four or five members that I actually enjoy playing with. I mean if they quit then I would still play on the server, but I probably wouldnt post on forums and I would probably only spend an hour or so a week on FT.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
b4ndito, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:19PM
Rusty is one of our oldest members, Ag3nt. Someone lock this thread though, it's getting out of hand.
b4ndito, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:19PM
Rusty is one of our oldest members, Ag3nt. Someone lock this thread though, it's getting out of hand.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:19PM
Sorry for (now) triple posts, I fucking hate edits.
I'm just saying. Whether or not FT was an actual community clan, I'd still play on the server because it's 24/7 office which I love. But the bonus is seeing the same people and getting to fuck around in game like back hall nades because everyone is chill with everyone else.
I also play because I hate hearing 16 year old dumbass kids screeching through the mic. If anything you should stay just to keep your ears from bleeding when you go to another server.
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:19PM
Sorry for (now) triple posts, I fucking hate edits.
I'm just saying. Whether or not FT was an actual community clan, I'd still play on the server because it's 24/7 office which I love. But the bonus is seeing the same people and getting to fuck around in game like back hall nades because everyone is chill with everyone else.
I also play because I hate hearing 16 year old dumbass kids screeching through the mic. If anything you should stay just to keep your ears from bleeding when you go to another server.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
Rusty, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:22PM
Ironically, I'd like you to show respect, which I've never seen you do on these forums since you've been nommed. Ironically, I remember the day your vote barely passed to actually get into FT, and your attitude changed completely from kiss ass to douchebag. Show your elders some respect please, considering I passed up my chance to get grandfathered into FT when it was created (because I was an admin on surf) and now I am an op of surf, who got voted in by a landslide to this community. So please, you show some respect to people who actually care about this community
Rusty, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:22PM
ABadNewsBear wrote ...
If you actually bothered to read my resignation post, you would know that this isn't a ragequit. Your post exemplifies something I indirectly allude to, which is a lack of respect.
Rusty wrote ...
/ragequit
next?
/ragequit
next?
If you actually bothered to read my resignation post, you would know that this isn't a ragequit. Your post exemplifies something I indirectly allude to, which is a lack of respect.
Ironically, I'd like you to show respect, which I've never seen you do on these forums since you've been nommed. Ironically, I remember the day your vote barely passed to actually get into FT, and your attitude changed completely from kiss ass to douchebag. Show your elders some respect please, considering I passed up my chance to get grandfathered into FT when it was created (because I was an admin on surf) and now I am an op of surf, who got voted in by a landslide to this community. So please, you show some respect to people who actually care about this community
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:23PM
Haha well I'm not leaving the server for good. I think by quitting the clan, I will enable myself to "care less" about the treatment that people (me included) receive. I won't feel entitled to respect from FT members, and I have any burden to act or feel that I should act fall on me if I see some random pug get mistreated.
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:23PM
Haha well I'm not leaving the server for good. I think by quitting the clan, I will enable myself to "care less" about the treatment that people (me included) receive. I won't feel entitled to respect from FT members, and I have any burden to act or feel that I should act fall on me if I see some random pug get mistreated.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:27PM
I have never been a kiss-ass Rusty, as Alex probably remembers from my early days. I know that you care about FT a lot, and not just surf. While having invested less time in the clan than you have, I cared about it too. Why don't you dig up my actual vote, because I don't remember it being that close.
Finally, if you're going to talk about post immaturity, you can find examples of lawling childishness as well as normal contributions. That's the forums, and that's interplay and consideration between e-friends.
For the "kiss-ass to douchebag" comment, I will say this: Fuck you, Rusty.
ABadNewsBear, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:27PM
I have never been a kiss-ass Rusty, as Alex probably remembers from my early days. I know that you care about FT a lot, and not just surf. While having invested less time in the clan than you have, I cared about it too. Why don't you dig up my actual vote, because I don't remember it being that close.
Finally, if you're going to talk about post immaturity, you can find examples of lawling childishness as well as normal contributions. That's the forums, and that's interplay and consideration between e-friends.
For the "kiss-ass to douchebag" comment, I will say this: Fuck you, Rusty.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:29PM
Word, well however it works out, stick around. I at least had fun playin with you from what I remember
Oh Rusty...
Just when I thought the rage had subsided
Tact plz, no reason for being a dick. By the way, do you play mostly on surf. I just dug up my old account from when I first started played on FT and we've both been playing about the same amount of time (this account is a new one cause i forgot pass to old one.) How do I not know you from the server?
[FT] Ag3nt, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:29PM
Word, well however it works out, stick around. I at least had fun playin with you from what I remember
Oh Rusty...
Just when I thought the rage had subsided
Tact plz, no reason for being a dick. By the way, do you play mostly on surf. I just dug up my old account from when I first started played on FT and we've both been playing about the same amount of time (this account is a new one cause i forgot pass to old one.) How do I not know you from the server?
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
Rusty, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:33PM
lets sex agent, later
and bear, I swear, there was one thread right after you got in that threw me completely off on you, having not played office really since it's no as srs as surf, and also, I just like saying everyone leaving is /ragequiting
it's the new trend
/rageoutwith my (word for penis that rhymes with rage here) out.
Rusty, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:33PM
lets sex agent, later
and bear, I swear, there was one thread right after you got in that threw me completely off on you, having not played office really since it's no as srs as surf, and also, I just like saying everyone leaving is /ragequiting
it's the new trend
/rageoutwith my (word for penis that rhymes with rage here) out.
Re: Unfair mute by Ktulu / General FTC failure
emerican, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:39PM
enough of this shitfest. rusty wins. end of discussion
emerican, Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:39PM
enough of this shitfest. rusty wins. end of discussion
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