Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
gLiTch, Thu Jul 12 2012, 08:21PM
Well guys, the discussion about a revamped constitution has been going on for several days now. I got several good ideas and have included them all. I think it is a pretty solid document. It is very similar to Goose's original but more updated and thorough.
This is how this will go so pay attention.
As Alex has mentioned, making the original just disappear by magical means is not the correct way to go about things. Rusty brought up the point that we should vote the old one out and replace it with the new one using the old means. If i am correct, a 12 vote minimum and 67% passing margin was the universal voting regulation for all proposals.
My dilemma was the old system did not take into account the lack of member participation which would cause a stalemate in getting anything passed. So this "proposal" is a trial and error. If you do not like something in this new constitution and you didnt mention it in the other thread...well then your an ass. This revamped document is lenient to gain a new membership base. We do not have many active members contrary to popular belief (Knightrider, Alex, and Vectorman were never officially voted back in...and Alex's nomination didnt make the minimum if im not mistaken). After we get more members, this constitution can be amended by the Amendment procedure which is found in Amendment XI.
To further clear this up, if this vote makes the minimum and fails as in most of you do not like it, then we will have to either discuss it more, or Amend the original document using the old way...which could severely drag on the complete revival and waste a lot of time. If this vote DOES NOT make even the MINIMUM required amount of votes, then i will hereby suspend the original constitution and replace it with this one as this one will make it much easier to get things passed quickly.
Like i said, if this new document goes live, then we can always amend it later when we get more members.
Voting rules: (correct me if im wrong but i looked and this is what i came up with)
Minimum 12 FT members must vote.
Must have 67% yes votes.
Proposal is open for SIX (6) days.
If your name is on this list, you can vote.
Bubble Goose
gLiTch
Japa
Rusty
Kddude
Madvillain
4ngryToasters
Nona
me
Maddogme
Cookie Monster
Noskill
B4ndito
Skittles (Piece)
Omni
KCow
Scope_UK
3Stripe
Night_Ninja
Omega
Kirby
Yourdroi
d
Amped
Glas4d
Mddog1123123124105120398120938123123091823091
2831209
Emerican
Buddha
Nostie
Doctorphate
Aks
Please do not turn this into a discussion. There is a thread below this on the front page that has had the discussion. I have seen a handful of FT members participate on this site but not in that discussion.
Here is the Constitution. Vote away!!
Fish Tank Voting System
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Minimum Requirements for a Fish Tank Membership
Fish Tank prospects have TWO (2) options available to them...
You could either:
Achieve 30 server hours AND 100 active forum posts
Achieve 50 server hours AND 30 active forum posts
Active meaning posts in threads that are no older than TWO (2) weeks from the date of your initial post.
This is the BARE minimum to be considered a regular.
Returning Player Courtesy:
25 server hours AND 15 active forum posts
Grounds for a Termination
May include but is not limited too:
- Disregard for rules and tarnishing of the FT image.
- General disrespect or hate towards other members of FT, ANY sub-clan, or regulars.
- Major abuse of admin powers whether on forums or in servers.
- Game AND forum inactivity greater than two (2) months WITHOUT a "Leave the Light On" thread.
Fish Tank Bill of Rights
I. The Fish Tank membership voting process is a Democracy. Voting is strongly encouraged...it is your Fish Tank right. Every member is allowed ONE (1) vote. You may NOT vote for someone else. No absentee votes will be allowed.
II. A simple "yes" or "no" vote should suffice. If you feel you need to give a reason explaining your vote or have any relative comments to add, PLEASE TRY TO USE ONE (1) POST and please keep it short and simple. Any additional posts that lead to a massive discussion and cluttered proposal thread will be deleted by a moderator. You can always go back and edit.
III. Only a Fish Tank member can start a Nomination/Termination proposal. Each member can only have ONE (1) Nomination and ONE (1) Termination going at any given time. The proposal must be started in the "Open Proposals" sub-forum in the FT Community Clan forum.
IV. It is the responsibility of the proposal starter to count the votes, publicly declare a pass or fail in a new thread, and close (not delete) the proposal thread. Edit and add "CLOSED" in parenthesis at the end of the title to signal a moderator. He/she will then move the thread to the appropriate forum which will be the "Closed Proposals" forum.
V. Nomination & Termination proposals will last for FIVE (5) days. Votes cast within those five days will officially be counted. Any votes cast AFTER the five day voting period will NOT be counted and will be disregarded.
VI. Any Nomination proposal must have a minimum of FIVE (5) votes cast and must have THREE (3) more "yes" votes than "no" votes. Any Termination proposal must also follow the same requirements.
VII. A proposal cannot be made requesting changes to any FT server's operation, admin list, mapcycle, etc... That is beyond the scope of the clan. Server operation is up to server owners and operators. Proposals that deal with the above aforementioned will be declared invalid and closed by moderators. Thread will be moved accordingly.
VIII. Returning player courtesy will START only after the returning player makes a thread declaring he/she is retuning to play, be active, and wants to rejoin FT. A forum moderator will add an Edit stating what the current hours/posts are and any subsequent number will go towards the total.
IX. Any new server that is run by an [FT] member and wishes for it to be associated/affiliated/inducted into the [FT] clan and community should be taken to a Vote and decided upon by the clan. If the server is accepted by way of a successful simple majority (more yes votes than no votes), the server should have the words 'Fish Tank' in the name/title as a recognition of the server's affiliation with the clan/community.
X. Any sub-clan that wants to be affiliated with the website must also go through a successful simple-majority (51%) vote. Old sub-clans such as F7L5, 9²5, and noFear will be grandfathered in. Rules to become part of said sub-clan will be dealt with by the sub-clan and they will have their own membership process. However, Fish Tank forum netiquette and respect must be upheld regardless otherwise affiliation will be terminated and sub-forums deleted.
XI. Amendments to this Constitution MUST be openly discussed first amongst the clan in the FT Community Clan forum. A member, preferably the one who started the discussion, must make an Amendment Proposal thread in the Open Proposals forum. It should have the official text of the proposed Amendment and no explanation as the discussion has already happened. It must have a minimum of 5 votes cast and have THREE (3) more yes votes than no votes. It will be officially open for FIVE (5) days. New Amendments go into effect immediately upon declaration of passing which will be stated in a new thread. Same thread closing procedures will occur. A moderator will add the new Amendment to this post immediately. Any Amendments passed during the time another proposal is open will NOT be counted towards said open proposal.
My vote is Yes.
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
doctorphate, Thu Jul 12 2012, 08:36PM
Yes.
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
kremit, Thu Jul 12 2012, 09:09PM
I dont usually vote, but I did read this and like it a lot.
Yes.
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
nostie, Thu Jul 12 2012, 09:20PM
yes
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
Aks, Thu Jul 12 2012, 09:24PM
If i got the right to vote then .. yes...
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Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
gLiTch, Thu Jul 12 2012, 09:44PM
Aks wrote ...
If i got the right to vote then .. yes...
You do. I added you to the roaster since Knight forgot.
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
Rusty, Thu Jul 12 2012, 09:48PM
Yes,
But I look to a quick amending on amendment VI as I think 4 total yes votes is very little over all but will do for now. (5 total votes, min of 4 yes, 1 no, 4 yes = +3 yes and 5 total votes, giving 4 people the power to vote in the clan overall)
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Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
gLiTch, Thu Jul 12 2012, 09:58PM
Rusty wrote ...
Yes,
But I look to a quick amending on amendment VI as I think 4 total yes votes is very little over all but will do for now. (5 total votes, min of 4 yes, 1 no, 4 yes = +3 yes and 5 total votes, giving 4 people the power to vote in the clan overall)
Yea it is not a perfect system as we have very little active members. Amendment VI would be one of the first ones to be amended once we get a few more members.
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
scope_uk, Fri Jul 13 2012, 12:27AM
Yes
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
peacebypeice, Fri Jul 13 2012, 01:30AM
yar
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
Madvillain, Fri Jul 13 2012, 02:57AM
yup yup
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
Amped, Fri Jul 13 2012, 05:29AM
Affirmative
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
Omni, Fri Jul 13 2012, 06:37AM
please
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
JapJap, Fri Jul 13 2012, 06:59AM
mhmm
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
Glas4d, Fri Jul 13 2012, 05:50PM
si
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
b4ndito, Sat Jul 14 2012, 03:55AM
Yes.
Well done, Glitch. Your effort is not unappreciated.
Re: Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
emerican, Sat Jul 14 2012, 11:59PM
Yes. However, I noticed Kremit was not on the list... this needs to be fixed ASAP
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Get the Ball Rolling... Fish Tank Constitution Proposal [CLOSED]
gLiTch, Mon Jul 16 2012, 01:37AM
emerican wrote ...
Yes. However, I noticed Kremit was not on the list... this needs to be fixed ASAP
Done.
And congratz guys! We made more than minimum people.